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 Post subject: Buying a new jeep...
PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 6:36 pm 
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I'm looking for a Jeep for my other son now. What are the gotchas with TJ's - I know the front fenders rust and the 4.0L is the engine of choice. Any other things to watch for if we're looking at a prospect? How about XJs as well? There are a few for sale with the 4.0L - any specific areas to check for rust or any drivetrain issues to look for? I'm not too worried about the smaller stuff that we can fix with aftermarket parts or work in the driveway, more the things that will cost dollars and require taking to a shop to fix/correct.

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P.S. if you know of anyone with a good TJ/YJ/LJ/XJ that would be a reliable daily driver, let me know.

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Look for frame rust just as it raises above rear axle . TJ automatics not the best choice. Early ones are robust but only 3 speed. Later ones 4 speed but not as strong


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Good luck hunting. I looked at tons that were either rotted in the floors and frame or crazy priced. I had two sold that I had though I had made a deal on. Someone offered more money before I picked it up.

They are out there if you are fast. I picked up a 2006 TJ with the 4L and 6 speed standard with 142,000 km. Someone had a deposit on it but were too slow coming back to pick it up. < found out after I paid for it>

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JP covered the big ones I was going to mention. Other issues would be minor and considered maintenance. I prefer 2003+ model years.


As for pricing, it's currently nuts in the market. However, as long as the trend continues with JL launch then odds are you'll drive "for free" for a few years when you go resell it other than maintenance.


I sold my 03 Rubi for ~$9500 over 5 years ago. Buying another 03 Rubi for $9500 today would not be a bad price :shock: :shock: :shock:


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Thanks for the info gents.

We're going to have a look at an XJ in Niagara today - any thoughts on this one? Not my first pick for a dd, but we'll have a look.

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/st-c ... nFlag=true

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The Lone Wrangler wrote:
Thanks for the info gents.

We're going to have a look at an XJ in Niagara today - any thoughts on this one? Not my first pick for a dd, but we'll have a look.

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/st-c ... nFlag=true



Looks like it is ready to start wheeling. I have no idea about good prices for these. I know my '89 got $200 at trade in but it was a wee bit rusty.
It did have less km than this one.

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Checked it out - a bit rough for a dd, as I expected.

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I think an XJ in good shape would be a good choice for a dd. you can get them cheap. You can get 4 doors and can be easily upgraded for trail


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That XJ looked excellent for the price.
How?
What will a basic operating XJ cost you plus cost of the lift and accessories on that truck?
Probable a good value.
Do consider, drive train seals and bearing probably need maintenance.
If it's been off road, maintenance is a must.
It's and XJ in 2017. By now they are all at least a little rough.
I'm about 3/4 million Km in Jeep products. For reliable daily drivers I recommend a Grand Cherokee.
Now an XJ as a daily driver?
Only if your son is mechanically inclined and likes to work on the truck.
If not mechanically inclined, but wants to learn, then an XJ will provide ample learning opportunities (requirements).
If not mechanically inclined, and no desire to become so, then the XJ is not the correct jeep.
Caution, if your son is bitten by an XJ, incurable jeep insanity will follow.

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We pulled the trigger yesterday - a bit more than I wanted to spend, but to get something that didn't look like a rolling rust bucket it cost a bit more.

It's an '04 Rubicon 5spd (I'm going to be teaching my son how to drive stick - I taught my wife on a HO Trans Am so Matt should be relatively easy - don't mention this to my wife!), 180-ish KMs, fresh 35" KO2s, well done 4" lift and body mods (flat fenders, armour, etc.) along with LED lighting all around. I'll probably drive it to the Monday meeting coming up.

another bonus - it's from a mechanic that works at a shop 5 minutes from my house! He seems like a good guy, JP - he'll be guiding at Camp NL this year and helps out at the "garage" setup every year, his name is Joe, I'll have his full name on the sale doc's I just can't remember it (old age/ADD combo!).

Thanks for everyone's feedback and advice.


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peep wrote:
That XJ looked excellent for the price.
How?
What will a basic operating XJ cost you plus cost of the lift and accessories on that truck?
Probable a good value.
Do consider, drive train seals and bearing probably need maintenance.
If it's been off road, maintenance is a must.
It's and XJ in 2017. By now they are all at least a little rough.
I'm about 3/4 million Km in Jeep products. For reliable daily drivers I recommend a Grand Cherokee.
Now an XJ as a daily driver?
Only if your son is mechanically inclined and likes to work on the truck.
If not mechanically inclined, but wants to learn, then an XJ will provide ample learning opportunities (requirements).
If not mechanically inclined, and no desire to become so, then the XJ is not the correct jeep.
Caution, if your son is bitten by an XJ, incurable jeep insanity will follow.

Sorry peep, no XJ - after driving around looking at a couple my son tells me he doesn't like the "big" jeeps. :)


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So, first TJ issue, seized rear caliper. He's going to replace caliper, rotor, and pads but not until Wed, so we may not take it to BAJA tomorrow.

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